BATMAN folks: Sorry I joined this list a bit late. I fully agree with ELEKTRA's email dated March 10, 2007 in his reply to Status of BATMAN in IETF. I attached ELEKTRA's comments again below: >>In my opinion the development cycle of many organizations

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is slow because they are too bureaucratic and too occupied with paperwork and their own hierarchical structure instead of developing useful things. I like the informal character of our development. Our research is a non-profit driven by fun and the will to empower people around the world to improve their communication on a grass root level. "On-line for all" is the agenda. Of course hoity-toity people with ties, suits and long academic titles tend to ignore a work of freaky people that don't bother about writing texts in the style of codes of law. That's alright with me. In their fancy-looking presentations about mesh-networks you see soldiers, tanks and robots building a mesh on the battlefield or bugging devices for their paranoid big-brother fantasies. I don't want to be supportive for that kind of development. We can't avoid it because of the open nature of open-source development. We are not doing things for our drawers or to keep it as a secret. >>Take the development of OLSR as an example.

INRIA is still submitting

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new drafts about ideas that we have found not feasible in real life in the year 2004 when we did our first tests with 20 nodes on a conference (Wizard of OS III) in Berlin