Hi all,
I'm getting ready to install a BATMAN based MESH node (10dBM omni) in a housing estate connected via a 2KM transparent bridge 5Ghz wireless link to the data centre.
Is it OK to have my base station(s) MESH openwrt boards have BATMAN running on two interfaces? the Ethernet NIC (to bridge) - & WIFI omni.
The reason I'm asking is that I'd like the base station(s) to find their last hop to be the datacentre server (running BATMAN).
I want to keep the Internet NATing in one place (datacentre gateway server) - this would ensure I'd have no problem with flapping routes once I have multiple base stations up.
Does this sound ok to you? Its the BATMAN on two interfaces thing I'm concerned about - will it work I wonder?
thanks for any info
Derek
I was hoping on setting up a
Hi again,
I've been trying to test this idea a bit but I'm a bit concerned - does BATMAN only work with AdHoc wireless NICs?
I have a server with an Ethernet NIC with an IP 5.0.0.1/8. I've got a transparent AP bridge with an IP of 5.1.0.1/8 and normally I can ping it from my server.
But when I enable BATMAN on the ethernet NIC I can no longer ping 5.1.0.1 -
Maybe this is due to an IP2 rule/route? I can see that this is due to a IP2 rule "from all to 5.0.0.0/8 lookup 67" and routes for table 67 is "unreachable default proto static"
So I'm wondering if it's possible to have part of the network as Ethernet rather than AdHoc wirless? (in my case with a transparent wireless bridge in the "middle" of the ethernet but that doesn't matter)
thanks for any info
Derek
On Thu, November 20, 2008 12:13 am, Derek C wrote:
Hi all,
I'm getting ready to install a BATMAN based MESH node (10dBM omni) in a housing estate connected via a 2KM transparent bridge 5Ghz wireless link to the data centre.
Is it OK to have my base station(s) MESH openwrt boards have BATMAN running on two interfaces? the Ethernet NIC (to bridge) - & WIFI omni.
The reason I'm asking is that I'd like the base station(s) to find their last hop to be the datacentre server (running BATMAN).
I want to keep the Internet NATing in one place (datacentre gateway server) - this would ensure I'd have no problem with flapping routes once I have multiple base stations up.
Does this sound ok to you? Its the BATMAN on two interfaces thing I'm concerned about - will it work I wonder?
thanks for any info
Derek
I was hoping on setting up a
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Hi,
I've been trying to test this idea a bit but I'm a bit concerned - does BATMAN only work with AdHoc wireless NICs?
no - its does not care about the lower layers. It will run on ad-hoc, managed, ethernet, etc ... Batman also runs on multiple interfaces. Simply supply several interfaces on the command line: batmand if1 if2 if3
I have a server with an Ethernet NIC with an IP 5.0.0.1/8. I've got a transparent AP bridge with an IP of 5.1.0.1/8 and normally I can ping it from my server.
Maybe this is due to an IP2 rule/route? I can see that this is due to a IP2 rule "from all to 5.0.0.0/8 lookup 67" and routes for table 67 is "unreachable default proto static"
Yes, the unreachable route may be the reason for that. Batman assumes that everything within its own IP range (5.0.0.1/8) should have a routing entry or the route does not exist. It lets you detect faster whether a node is down or not. Depending on your setup it may make sense to not have a route. Does the AP bridge (5.1.0.1/8) have a route back to your server ? If you want to integrate batmans routing decision into your fancy setup have a look here: https://dev.open-mesh.net/batman/wiki/RoutingVodoo
Marek
Hi Marek,
Overall that's great news (that I can route BATMAN over ethernet as well as wireless) - it means that if routes flap from gateway to gateway for whatever reason people will not drop connections as I'll keep the NAT at the Internet source (I can do it because I only have one Internet source).
I've just been trying out a "lazy" option for my internal AP bridge routing (just to that I can check they are alive and work on them, etc): - I've setup a NIC alias on another private subnet - BATMAN seems quite happy that an alias is there and doesn't affect its routing - so this looks like a good option right now!
thanks very much for the good news
Derek
On Thu, November 20, 2008 3:48 am, Marek Lindner wrote:
Hi,
I've been trying to test this idea a bit but I'm a bit concerned - does BATMAN only work with AdHoc wireless NICs?
no - its does not care about the lower layers. It will run on ad-hoc, managed, ethernet, etc ... Batman also runs on multiple interfaces. Simply supply several interfaces on the command line: batmand if1 if2 if3
I have a server with an Ethernet NIC with an IP 5.0.0.1/8. I've got a transparent AP bridge with an IP of 5.1.0.1/8 and normally I can ping it from my server.
Maybe this is due to an IP2 rule/route? I can see that this is due to a IP2 rule "from all to 5.0.0.0/8 lookup 67" and routes for table 67 is "unreachable default proto static"
Yes, the unreachable route may be the reason for that. Batman assumes that everything within its own IP range (5.0.0.1/8) should have a routing entry or the route does not exist. It lets you detect faster whether a node is down or not. Depending on your setup it may make sense to not have a route. Does the AP bridge (5.1.0.1/8) have a route back to your server ? If you want to integrate batmans routing decision into your fancy setup have a look here: https://dev.open-mesh.net/batman/wiki/RoutingVodoo
Marek
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On Thursday 20 November 2008 17:27:07 Derek C wrote:
Overall that's great news (that I can route BATMAN over ethernet as well as wireless) - it means that if routes flap from gateway to gateway for whatever reason people will not drop connections as I'll keep the NAT at the Internet source (I can do it because I only have one Internet source).
Glad that you found your way through. I'm not so sure what route flapping you are talking about. Batman itself will keep an eye on the default route to ensure it does not change too often.
Regards, Marek
Hi Marek,
Yes - I did read about the default route remaining fixing somehow - I suppose I didn't quite believe it!
I thought that the idea of keeping the network internal all the way to the single point where I hit the Internet was the best idea. I just have to make sure I build multiple backbone links for resilience - I've got one link up and I'll get another one up in the next two weeks and hopefully thats a good start.
Derek
On Thu, November 20, 2008 10:19 am, Marek Lindner wrote:
On Thursday 20 November 2008 17:27:07 Derek C wrote:
Overall that's great news (that I can route BATMAN over ethernet as well as wireless) - it means that if routes flap from gateway to gateway for whatever reason people will not drop connections as I'll keep the NAT at the Internet source (I can do it because I only have one Internet source).
Glad that you found your way through. I'm not so sure what route flapping you are talking about. Batman itself will keep an eye on the default route to ensure it does not change too often.
Regards, Marek
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