Hello,
I have recently decided to take up the prospect of layer 2 Batman adv protocol as my area of interest, and want to implement a mesh bed to get some statistical readings of my own (am very new to this area, so ask for forgiveness beforehand if I was supposed to provide more info). The plan was to set up OpenWRT in qemu in laptops and work on them with batman adv. But, unfortunately, I have been facing some problems in setting the system up. I have followed (as much as I could) the steps as per documentation (links for them posted below).
Links:
https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/qemu (Setting up qemu - problem I face in this is of which commands I should run , and which of the systems are viable for me (like QEMU arm, arm 64, x86-64,etc) to work on a 64-bit laptop having Linux OS ) https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/open-mesh/wiki/Emulation (I am not sure if my qemu is set up properly for there is no confirmation methods that are provided to me to check if its working properly)
What I hope to find is:-
Another documentation maybe for setting up, or confirmation for setting up (because I can't tell sometimes if the instructions have been followed correctly). Clarification for my doubt regarding the different types of OpenWRT images (like Kamikaze, Chaos Calmer, Attitude Adjustment,etc), what do they do and which one I should use for working with standard Batman adv setup. Confirmation method to see if qemu having OpenWRT is setup in my system - as now I have a setup in terminal which says
BusyBox v1.24.2 () built-in shell (ash)
//Says OpenWrt below _______ ________ __ | | .-----.-----.-----.| | | |.----.| |_ | - | | _ | -__| || | | || _|| _| |_______| | __|____|__|__||________||__| |____| |__| W I R E L E S S F R E E D O M ----------------------------------------------------- DESIGNATED DRIVER (Bleeding Edge, 49928) ----------------------------------------------------- * 2 oz. Orange Juice Combine all juices in a * 2 oz. Pineapple Juice tall glass filled with * 2 oz. Grapefruit Juice ice, stir well. * 2 oz. Cranberry Juice ----------------------------------------------------- root@OpenWrt:/# [ 13.897119] smsc911x smsc911x.0 eth0: SMSC911x/921x identified at 0xf0b40000, IRQ: 60 [ 13.934741] device eth0 entered promiscuous mode [ 13.978166] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): br-lan: link is not ready [ 15.762764] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state [ 15.764526] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state [ 15.802643] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): br-lan: link becomes ready [ 17.762480] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state root@OpenWrt:/#
I have more doubts, but hopefully, I will get some answers to them from the above questions itself. Hope to hear soon!!!
Thanks and Regards,
Kaushik NP LI | Tw | FB SAP Ambassador, General Secretary, Computer Society Team IEEE UVCE, 3rd Year Undergraduate Student, University Visvesvaraya College of Engineering, Bangalore, IN
Hello Kaushik
On 2016-10-03 19:44, Kaushik N P wrote:
Hello,
What I hope to find is:-
Another documentation maybe for setting up, or confirmation for setting up (because I can't tell sometimes if the instructions have been followed correctly).
I have no experience in simulating or emulating batman-adv, but I have experience in compiling openwrt from source along with batman-adv and batctl. I can help you with that. batman-adv is built as a kernel module and so it is included by default in Linux kernels >= 2.x. You have mentioned that you are using Linux based operating system, I hope by now, you should be running Linux kernel 4.x. If you want to play around with batman-adv for sometime before emulating, you can use two three Linux based laptops with WiFi interface cards that support IBSS (adhoc mode).
You can check that using
iw list | grep IBSS
if the command returned something like Device supports RSN-IBSS. * IBSS
then your Wireless NIC can be switched to ad-hoc mode. We have a bash shell script that does it automatically for you. You can find the script and terminal cast in the following links.
1. https://github.com/PYMeshnet/scripts 2. https://asciinema.org/a/38575
Clarification for my doubt regarding the different types of OpenWRT images (like Kamikaze, Chaos Calmer, Attitude Adjustment,etc), what do they do and which one I should use for working with standard Batman adv setup.
Chaos Calmer (15.x) is the recent stable release of OpenWRT firmware. 'Kamikaze, Altitude Adjustment, etc.,' are just different names given to different versions of OpenWRT releases. OpenWRT are meant to be the operating system for routers and modems. Depending on the configuration of devices, some versions may be supported and some may not be supported on certain routers and modems.
Since you are trying to create a virtual environment, I think should go with Chaos Calmer. (again I have no experience either with creating a virtual environment for OpenWRT nor for batman-adv).
Confirmation method to see if qemu having OpenWRT is setup in my system - as now I have a setup in terminal which says
BusyBox v1.24.2 () built-in shell (ash)
//Says OpenWrt below _______ ________ __ | | .-----.-----.-----.| | | |.----.| |_ | - | | _ | -__| || | | || _|| _| |_______| | __|____|__|__||________||__| |____| |__| W I R E L E S S F R E E D O M
DESIGNATED DRIVER (Bleeding Edge, 49928)
- 2 oz. Orange Juice Combine all juices in a
- 2 oz. Pineapple Juice tall glass filled with
- 2 oz. Grapefruit Juice ice, stir well.
- 2 oz. Cranberry Juice
root@OpenWrt:/# [ 13.897119] smsc911x smsc911x.0 eth0: SMSC911x/921x identified at 0xf0b40000, IRQ: 60 [ 13.934741] device eth0 entered promiscuous mode [ 13.978166] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): br-lan: link is not ready [ 15.762764] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state [ 15.764526] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state [ 15.802643] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): br-lan: link becomes ready [ 17.762480] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state root@OpenWrt:/#
I have more doubts, but hopefully, I will get some answers to them from the above questions itself. Hope to hear soon!!!
Thanks and Regards,
Kaushik NP LI | Tw | FB SAP Ambassador, General Secretary, Computer Society Team IEEE UVCE, 3rd Year Undergraduate Student, University Visvesvaraya College of Engineering, Bangalore, IN
Hello,
Thank you 'rise.net' for the suggestion. It has given me some ideas, but what I hoped to do was to run the laptop with OpenWRT working with Batman adv like a router. This would enable me in creating a more extensive network without having to buy more routers itself and hopefully provide me with a more versatile network to work on. I will ofcourse be experimenting more along your steps, but I hope to get the QEMU set up and running on my system.
If any one has more info on the QEMU setup, pls do contact.
Thanks and Regards,
Kaushik NP General Secretary, Computer Society Team IEEE UVCE, 3rd Year Undergraduate Student, University Visvesvaraya College of Engineering, Bangalore, IN
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:38 PM, leftbydefault@riseup.net wrote:
Hello Kaushik
On 2016-10-03 19:44, Kaushik N P wrote:
Hello,
What I hope to find is:-
Another documentation maybe for setting up, or confirmation for setting up (because I can't tell sometimes if the instructions have been followed correctly).
I have no experience in simulating or emulating batman-adv, but I have experience in compiling openwrt from source along with batman-adv and batctl. I can help you with that. batman-adv is built as a kernel module and so it is included by default in Linux kernels >= 2.x. You have mentioned that you are using Linux based operating system, I hope by now, you should be running Linux kernel 4.x. If you want to play around with batman-adv for sometime before emulating, you can use two three Linux based laptops with WiFi interface cards that support IBSS (adhoc mode).
You can check that using
iw list | grep IBSSif the command returned something like Device supports RSN-IBSS. * IBSS
then your Wireless NIC can be switched to ad-hoc mode. We have a bash shell script that does it automatically for you. You can find the script and terminal cast in the following links.
Clarification for my doubt regarding the different types of OpenWRT images (like Kamikaze, Chaos Calmer, Attitude Adjustment,etc), what do they do and which one I should use for working with standard Batman adv setup.
Chaos Calmer (15.x) is the recent stable release of OpenWRT firmware. 'Kamikaze, Altitude Adjustment, etc.,' are just different names given to different versions of OpenWRT releases. OpenWRT are meant to be the operating system for routers and modems. Depending on the configuration of devices, some versions may be supported and some may not be supported on certain routers and modems.
Since you are trying to create a virtual environment, I think should go with Chaos Calmer. (again I have no experience either with creating a virtual environment for OpenWRT nor for batman-adv).
Confirmation method to see if qemu having OpenWRT is setup in my system - as now I have a setup in terminal which says
BusyBox v1.24.2 () built-in shell (ash)
//Says OpenWrt below _______ ________ __ | | .-----.-----.-----.| | | |.----.| |_ | - | | _ | -__| || | | || _|| _| |_______| | __|____|__|__||________||__| |____| |__| W I R E L E S S F R E E D O M
DESIGNATED DRIVER (Bleeding Edge, 49928)
- 2 oz. Orange Juice Combine all juices in a
- 2 oz. Pineapple Juice tall glass filled with
- 2 oz. Grapefruit Juice ice, stir well.
- 2 oz. Cranberry Juice
root@OpenWrt:/# [ 13.897119] smsc911x smsc911x.0 eth0: SMSC911x/921x identified at 0xf0b40000, IRQ: 60 [ 13.934741] device eth0 entered promiscuous mode [ 13.978166] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): br-lan: link is not ready [ 15.762764] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state [ 15.764526] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state [ 15.802643] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): br-lan: link becomes ready [ 17.762480] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state root@OpenWrt:/#
I have more doubts, but hopefully, I will get some answers to them from the above questions itself. Hope to hear soon!!!
Thanks and Regards,
Kaushik NP LI | Tw | FB SAP Ambassador, General Secretary, Computer Society Team IEEE UVCE, 3rd Year Undergraduate Student, University Visvesvaraya College of Engineering, Bangalore, IN
Testing batman-adv in virtual maschines on laptops is the most complex and non-realistic way to start with mesh-networking. So its a nice, very demanding student thing.
its much more easier to buy some (more than 2!!) cheap wifi-routers! they have proper wifi, more than one ethernet-interface (!) and there are many openwrt/lede mesh firmwares with a well-configured batman-adv. after that, the next step could be to try to couple your first laptop into that mesh. starting with nothing but laptops seems to be too "versatile".
if you are unfamiliar with qemu and virtualization your should first try to install ubuntu or windows in a virtual machine. please use "virt-manager", a graphical interface for that.
unfortunatly the mentioned "stable" openwrt was forced to use a very old batman-adv version from 2014. So you might use trunk firmware, and use LEDE instead of Openwrt, to have a proper system.
http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/lede/snapshots/targets/x86/generic/lede-x8...
On 04.10.2016 12:11, Kaushik N P wrote:
Hello,
Thank you 'rise.net' for the suggestion. It has given me some ideas, but what I hoped to do was to run the laptop with OpenWRT working with Batman adv like a router. This would enable me in creating a more extensive network without having to buy more routers itself and hopefully provide me with a more versatile network to work on. I will ofcourse be experimenting more along your steps, but I hope to get the QEMU set up and running on my system.
If any one has more info on the QEMU setup, pls do contact.
Thanks and Regards,
Kaushik NP General Secretary, Computer Society Team IEEE UVCE, 3rd Year Undergraduate Student, University Visvesvaraya College of Engineering, Bangalore, IN
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:38 PM, leftbydefault@riseup.net wrote:
Hello Kaushik
On 2016-10-03 19:44, Kaushik N P wrote:
Hello,
What I hope to find is:-
Another documentation maybe for setting up, or confirmation for setting up (because I can't tell sometimes if the instructions have been followed correctly).
I have no experience in simulating or emulating batman-adv, but I have experience in compiling openwrt from source along with batman-adv and batctl. I can help you with that. batman-adv is built as a kernel module and so it is included by default in Linux kernels >= 2.x. You have mentioned that you are using Linux based operating system, I hope by now, you should be running Linux kernel 4.x. If you want to play around with batman-adv for sometime before emulating, you can use two three Linux based laptops with WiFi interface cards that support IBSS (adhoc mode).
You can check that using
iw list | grep IBSSif the command returned something like Device supports RSN-IBSS. * IBSS
then your Wireless NIC can be switched to ad-hoc mode. We have a bash shell script that does it automatically for you. You can find the script and terminal cast in the following links.
Clarification for my doubt regarding the different types of OpenWRT images (like Kamikaze, Chaos Calmer, Attitude Adjustment,etc), what do they do and which one I should use for working with standard Batman adv setup.
Chaos Calmer (15.x) is the recent stable release of OpenWRT firmware. 'Kamikaze, Altitude Adjustment, etc.,' are just different names given to different versions of OpenWRT releases. OpenWRT are meant to be the operating system for routers and modems. Depending on the configuration of devices, some versions may be supported and some may not be supported on certain routers and modems.
Since you are trying to create a virtual environment, I think should go with Chaos Calmer. (again I have no experience either with creating a virtual environment for OpenWRT nor for batman-adv).
Confirmation method to see if qemu having OpenWRT is setup in my system - as now I have a setup in terminal which says
BusyBox v1.24.2 () built-in shell (ash)
//Says OpenWrt below _______ ________ __ | | .-----.-----.-----.| | | |.----.| |_ | - | | _ | -__| || | | || _|| _| |_______| | __|____|__|__||________||__| |____| |__| W I R E L E S S F R E E D O M
DESIGNATED DRIVER (Bleeding Edge, 49928)
- 2 oz. Orange Juice Combine all juices in a
- 2 oz. Pineapple Juice tall glass filled with
- 2 oz. Grapefruit Juice ice, stir well.
- 2 oz. Cranberry Juice
root@OpenWrt:/# [ 13.897119] smsc911x smsc911x.0 eth0: SMSC911x/921x identified at 0xf0b40000, IRQ: 60 [ 13.934741] device eth0 entered promiscuous mode [ 13.978166] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): br-lan: link is not ready [ 15.762764] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state [ 15.764526] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state [ 15.802643] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): br-lan: link becomes ready [ 17.762480] br-lan: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state root@OpenWrt:/#
I have more doubts, but hopefully, I will get some answers to them from the above questions itself. Hope to hear soon!!!
Thanks and Regards,
Kaushik NP LI | Tw | FB SAP Ambassador, General Secretary, Computer Society Team IEEE UVCE, 3rd Year Undergraduate Student, University Visvesvaraya College of Engineering, Bangalore, IN
On Monday, October 3, 2016 7:44:47 PM HKT Kaushik N P wrote:
https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/open-mesh/wiki/Emulation (I am not sure if my qemu is set up properly for there is no confirmation methods that are provided to me to check if its working properly)
What do these 'confirmation methods' you hope to find look like ? I guess to most readers it isn't easy to help you because it is unclear what you find missing. Another way to go about this is to state what you have done and what you found not working. Then we have a clear starting point.
Clarification for my doubt regarding the different types of OpenWRT images (like Kamikaze, Chaos Calmer, Attitude Adjustment,etc), what do they do and which one I should use for working with standard Batman adv setup.
That's quite broad too. As explained already, batman-adv is part of the Linux kernel. Most of the releases you mentioned run a version of batman-adv. If you want the latest batman-adv with the latest kernel / user space features go for the latest release.
The image names you mention simply are different releases (Chaos Calmer being the latest).
Cheers, Marek
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